http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum Forum of the Harley-Davidson Riders Club Great Britain en Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:09:50 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77635-news-item-interesting-story-holland.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:11:09 GMT

The Dutch are coming up with a new way to tax their people. Normally in most European countries, cars are taxed when sold, plus they pay a road tax - an annual tax depending on your car weight or power.

The government in the Low Lands (The Netherlands) have voted in a new law that will remove the sales and road tax in favor of a pay-as-you-go tax.

In other words, the more kilometers you drive, the more you pay. The idea is to prevent people from making unnecessary trips with their vehicles, thereby reducing CO2 and diminishing traffic jams.

Initially, cars will have to pay €0.03 per kilometer (about US$0.07 per mile) , which will probably be raised to €0.07 (about US$0.16 per mile). The idea is to have your mileage recorded by means of an installed GPS.

The GPS will be limited in functionality, in other words the Government will not be able to see how fast you went, and where you went, just the mileage (honest ... the check is in the mail). Foreign cars will also be taxed, but the way has not been published.

Here's the good news. Motorcycles do not need to pay any taxes! That's right, for once, motorcycle riders are on the good side of a law. However, according to experts, this will mean an increase in the number of bikers, and therefore an increase of the number of road fatalities amongst motorcycle riders.

The new "green" road tax system ("green" for money, or green of 10% less pollution??) will become active in 2012. I wonder who gets the contract for the GPS? ]]> Beer Tent BaZa® http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77635-news-item-interesting-story-holland.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-vintage-classic-era/77634-vintage-vincent-costs-more-than-desmosedici.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:52:04 GMT Image: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/260415/images/erez.jpg How much would you pay for a 50-year-old bike? More than the £40,000 you would have to shell out for a brand new Ducati Desmosedici (http://www.shell.com/home/content/motorsport/ducati/motogp_2009/ducati_desmosedici_gp9/)? One buyer did just that when he snapped up a 1951 Vincent Black Shadow for £47,700 at auction in Harrogate, Yorkshire. The concours standard 998cc V-4 Black Shadow was the most expensive bike sold at the Bonhams auction, but this is little surprise. Anything with a Vincent badge on it is guaranteed to raise good money at auction. Last year a Vincent-HRD Series-A Rapide became the most expensive bike ever sold at auction in the UK. It raised a staggering £201,000 – smashing the British record and its estimate by around £50,000 But it is not the only marque to demand top dollar. Indian is always popular too, and this week a 1930 Indian Model 402 Four sold for £33,350, while a rare pre-war Matchless Silver Hawk in need of restoration raised £28,175.



How much would you pay for a 50-year-old bike? More than the £40,000 you would have to shell out for a brand new Ducati Desmosedici?
One buyer did just that when he snapped up a 1951 Vincent Black Shadow for £47,700 at auction in Harrogate, Yorkshire.
The concours standard 998cc V-4 Black Shadow was the most expensive bike sold at the Bonhams auction, but this is little surprise.
Anything with a Vincent badge on it is guaranteed to raise good money at auction. Last year a Vincent-HRD Series-A Rapide became the most expensive bike ever sold at auction in the UK. It raised a staggering £201,000 – smashing the British record and its estimate by around £50,000
But it is not the only marque to demand top dollar. Indian is always popular too, and this week a 1930 Indian Model 402 Four sold for £33,350, while a rare pre-war Matchless Silver Hawk in need of restoration raised £28,175. ]]> BaZa® http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-vintage-classic-era/77634-vintage-vincent-costs-more-than-desmosedici.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77633-mcnews-story-sussex-coasters-targeted.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:44:48 GMT Police target riders for not wearing hi-vis

Police target riders for not wearing hi-vis - | Motorcycle News | Bike News | Motorbike Videos | MCN


By Steve Farrell -
General news
20 November 2009 17:25

Police in Sussex have admitted targeting motorcyclists for not wearing hi-vis bibs.
The force stopped 150 commuters for not wearing hi-vis gear in a five-day operation and issued each with a bib which they were told they should wear in a road-side lecture.
A force spokesman said: “Riders were given a free hi-vis vest and a talk about road safety, emphasising the need to 'be safe, be seen'.
"Motorcyclists and moped riders are amongst the most vulnerable road users and often, in the event of a collision, the injuries are serious.
"A common theme when dealing with this type of collision is that other road users state they just didn't see them.”
Sgt Mel Doyle in the Brighton and Hove road policing unit said any rider not wearing hi-vis clothing was in line to be targeted.
“Every police car was issued with hi-vis vests,” she said. “The objective of the operation was that if we saw motorcyclists riding without hi-vis clothing, we’d stop them and give them a vest.”
Sgt Paul Wood of the same unit added: “We stopped motorcyclists predominantly during rush-hour traffic in the mornings on the major routes into an out of Brighton.
“We had a look at their motorcycles and had a quick road safety chat with them in relation to them being vulnerable road users and conspicuity issues.
"And then we offered them a free high-visibility vest and said we would encourage you to wear it because in a lot of the collisions that occur within the city, drivers have said we looked but didn’t see them.”
Wood said there were no plans to stop drivers to raise their awareness of the same issues.
He denied riders not in hi-vis were targeted and said those already wearing hi-vis gear may also have been stopped during the operation last month.




]]> Beer Tent BaZa® http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77633-mcnews-story-sussex-coasters-targeted.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-evo-sportsters/77631-relocating-turn-signals-problems.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:55:00 GMT Hey again everyone!

I was working over the weekend on my 2009 Sportster 883C to assess what damage it may have suffered after it was stolen. I then decided that the weekend was a good opportunity to relocate the rear indicator lights using the Layback License Plate and Turn Signal Relocation kit (Part 60215-06), but I ran into a few mechanical problems. I was hoping you experienced guys could help this newbie with some suggestions. I'm quite new to all the mechanical stuff and I know that taking it to a dealer would probably be more sensible, but I really want to learn, even if it takes time. Here goes:

1) The left rear indicator: I removed the left rear indicator successfully by twisting the nut underneath the fender with a ring spanner. The indicator loosened and the turn signal support and housing came out easily. However, I couldn't remove the actual stud itself: When I try loosening its nut under the fender, the whole stud rotates too. So as it currently stands, I have the stud sticking out of the left side of the bike with its nut attached.

2) The right rear indicator: When I tried removing the right rear indicator, the nut on the inside of the fender came out but the indicator remained attached to the stud and fender. I tried pulling on the turn signal support but it just would not come out. Thus as it currently stands, I have the stud exposed under the rear fender without its nut and unable to remove the right rear indicator.

For convenience, below is the link to the instructions to the relocation kit. I am basically stuck on step 9:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...ts/-J03892.pdf

3) Docking Hardware for Detachable Sissy Bar (Part 53529-04): I replaced the rear bolts with the ones from the kit, but I could not torque them to what the instructions suggest (20 Nm) because the clip nut under the rear fender keeps spinning around. Would anyone know a way on how to secure the clip nut so I can tighten the bolts?

I realize that the above may be simple mechanical problems that are easily solved, but I spent a lot of time (4 hours plus) under the rear fender thinking and trying different ways to proceed. Any help would be very much appreciated!

Many thanks to everyone! ]]> Evo Sportsters fragfeaster777 http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-evo-sportsters/77631-relocating-turn-signals-problems.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-south-east/77630-if-you-venture-beer-tent.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:02:13 GMT From your own region, Neil's.............

New addition!!! ( 1 2)
chopper ]]> South East BaZa® http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-south-east/77630-if-you-venture-beer-tent.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-virtual-rally/77629-700-mile-shovelhead-weekend.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:25:16 GMT Had a meet-up with a couple of Aussie shovelheaders at the weekend at a pub near the NSW/Victoria border.

Bizarre weather......on Friday was about 38degreesC riding up, hot as hell, then on the way home it cooled considerably and we missed a monsoon on the Hume Highway that when it hit us in the service area was genuinely scary to even stand in...and would have shamed Cumbria! :D

Best of all, everyone's bike went real well, no spanners were seen at all, and the guys rode between 700 miles (me) and 1500 miles (furthest travelled) to get there, have a run, and return home.

Good times.... we even stopped for a sub......




I actually dug out an old Lincs top....must be 16 years old now.....I am the new Paul Parslow...:D

]]> Virtual Rally kiwidave http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-virtual-rally/77629-700-mile-shovelhead-weekend.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-south-east/77628-happy-birthday-chris.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:04:55 GMT Happy birfday Chris. pity u gotta work til 2. xxxxxxxxxxxx :p Happy birfday Chris. pity u gotta work til 2. xxxxxxxxxxxx :p ]]> South East Janie http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-south-east/77628-happy-birthday-chris.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77627-hd-tv-now.html Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:29:55 GMT P watching a prog on harleys called mega factories,, national geo High def channel,might be on plus 1 for those unable to sleep:) P watching a prog on harleys called mega factories,, national geo High def channel,might be on plus 1 for those unable to sleep:) ]]> Beer Tent WORMY http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77627-hd-tv-now.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77626-erotica-2009-olympia.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:08:37 GMT Saw some real porn whilst working at Olympia today............ A WLA45, Night train and a VROD!:D Shame they had scantily clad women drapped all over them:wink::) Saw some real porn whilst working at Olympia today............
A WLA45, Night train and a VROD!:D

Shame they had scantily clad women drapped all over them:wink::) ]]> Beer Tent jbs-shovel http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77626-erotica-2009-olympia.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-evo-sportsters/77625-moved-where.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:36:53 GMT Where exactly? Where exactly? ]]> Evo Sportsters Ben http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-evo-sportsters/77625-moved-where.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-lincolnshire/77624-sand-raceing.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:46 GMT poped in to mablethorp whilst been in the area ,them lads are nut well worth going to watch very cold but theres plenty of tea and snacks right on the sea front so not so bad ,every 2 weeks well worth a ride out just remember its going to be cold:wink: poped in to mablethorp whilst been in the area ,them lads are nut well worth going to watch very cold but theres plenty of tea and snacks right on the sea front so not so bad ,every 2 weeks well worth a ride out just remember its going to be cold:wink: ]]> Lincolnshire rattie http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-lincolnshire/77624-sand-raceing.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77622-new-addition.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:49:00 GMT Not to the garage but the family this time!!
My new son Oliver was born on Tuesday 17th November (it's been a busy week!) at 10:04am weighing in at a healthy 8lb 4oz pics below from about 20 mins after he was born and one of his very proud big sister!




]]> Beer Tent chopper http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77622-new-addition.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-humour/77621-another-one.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:35:38 GMT A young brunette goes into the doctor’s office and says that her body hurts wherever she touches it.
"Impossible," says the doctor. "Show me."

She takes her finger and pushes her elbow and screams in agony. She pushes her knee and screams, pushes her ankle and screams. Everywhere she touches makes her scream.

The doctor says, "You’re not really a brunette, are you?"
She says "No, I’m really a blonde".
"I thought so," he says. "You have a broken finger." ]]> Humour Realbark http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-humour/77621-another-one.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77620-interesting-prog.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:42 GMT Just watched this. Confessions of a Traffic Warden - 4oD - Channel 4 (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/confessions-of-a-traffic-warden/4od#3010299) This is NOT an invitation for a tirade of racial abuse. I found it interesting,maybe you will too.:) Just watched this.

Confessions of a Traffic Warden - 4oD - Channel 4

This is NOT an invitation for a tirade of racial abuse.
I found it interesting,maybe you will too.:) ]]> Beer Tent Limey_Dave http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/77620-interesting-prog.html http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-humour/77619-honeymooners.html Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:59:06 GMT An ex-prostitute just got married. As the couple get into the honeymoon bed she starts to worry about the size of her well-worn fanny. She tells her startled hubby she caught it climbing over a fence.
After an hour in bed with her he asks "Just how far across this fucking field were you before you realised it was caught?" :wink: ]]> Humour Realbark http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-humour/77619-honeymooners.html