Sportster rear end

[girlyglide]

Originally Posted by Brigger

I import all my bits from the states... so I work on the basis of 8% duty - 15%VAT and roughly £15.00 customs clearance.

When I imported my front wheel the freight was $80.00. What you have to realise is that UK dealers (not only HD) do a straight conversion.

So if its $1400.00 it will be £1400.00 stg

Just do a comparison with UK HD dealers and USA... you will be shocked.

I have just purchased (Thanks to Rod for slagging off my numberplate) a laydown number plate kit with built in indicator relocator kit for $79.00
(£53.00) and I will get on Monday guaranteed delivery, if I had purchased from the UK it would had been not in stock, pay up front, given a delivery time of approx 2 weeks (comes from Germany) and then have to collect..

If there was realistic pricing in the UK I would buy here... But there aint...

I don't post in the Tech Sections for personal reasons but this I just couldn't leave unanswered.

You are obviously getting prices from the wrong places.

There is realistic pricing in the UK.

What YOU have to realise is that you are using generalisations and tarring all businesses that deal in Harley Parts with the same brush.

As a point of interest, without meaning it to be an advert in any way, shape or form, we do not do a $ for £ straight conversion, we offer a club discount, we NEVER charge all the cost up front EVEN for special (read limited appeal) orders.

Not all aftermarket parts come from Germany, I think you are refering to CCE. Zodiac are based in the Netherlands. We import from CCE, Zodiac and direct from the States through Midwest etc.

Using your own figures (although you have not made an allowance for shipping, we normally add 15% for air freight) the kit would work out at approx £1350. This is using a generous exchange rate of $1.48 to the GBP (trader rate not tourist rate).

Mmmmmm? Looks like the damned Yankees are having you over as well then.

[chopper]

Originally Posted by kevin bolden

FOOTNOTE
When it comes to hubs do you try to stick with the one for the model or the fact your going to be spacing it about, it doesnt matter otherthan disc and pulley PCDs match up to original

forget the original Kev, just get any aftermarket harley fitment wheel, that way the hub will be the correct size and you wont have to space pulleys or discs out, also you can sell the stock wheel and make up some of the lost cash!, you can get large spoked wheels off ebay for not alot of cash

[kevin bolden]

Thanks for the advice but what about quality, do you get what you pay for or is there good stuff out there. Do all hubs regardless of model have the same mouting as Im hoping to retain my 07 pulley and disc assys.

[Brigg]

Originally Posted by girlyglide

I don't post in the Tech Sections for personal reasons but this I just couldn't leave unanswered.

You are obviously getting prices from the wrong places.

There is realistic pricing in the UK.

What YOU have to realise is that you are using generalisations and tarring all businesses that deal in Harley Parts with the same brush.

As a point of interest, without meaning it to be an advert in any way, shape or form, we do not do a $ for £ straight conversion, we offer a club discount, we NEVER charge all the cost up front EVEN for special (read limited appeal) orders.

Not all aftermarket parts come from Germany, I think you are refering to CCE. Zodiac are based in the Netherlands. We import from CCE, Zodiac and direct from the States through Midwest etc.

Using your own figures (although you have not made an allowance for shipping, we normally add 15% for air freight) the kit would work out at approx £1350. This is using a generous exchange rate of $1.48 to the GBP (trader rate not tourist rate).

Mmmmmm? Looks like the damned Yankees are having you over as well then.

Disagree with you 100% UK HD dealers cant compete,UK independants though offer a more friendly service cant compete, admittedly the exchange rate has shortened the odds.

I would never buy from after market companies such as you mentioned. My comments were aimed directly at dealer's (HD) and unless they are telling more porkies everything I have tried to buy in the UK has been a two weeks delivery from a central warehouse in Germany and cash up front. I normally consolidate a shipment with mates and put together shipments worth moving and ship airfreight consolidation which give cheaper airfreight rates.

One cant be specific because I dont know you, didnt know you had a business or know how you operate, so generalising in what is a pretty specific market is the norm.

I have never ever taken a shipment which has not bettered UK dealer prices.

As I said I check the market place usually Alistair at V Twin or local HD dealers.

I think you may have lost the thread as this was a discovery for the Fat Tire conversion something I like but not necessarily something I would purchase..

[girlyglide]

Originally Posted by Brigger

Disagree with you 100% UK HD dealers cant compete,UK independants though offer a more friendly service cant compete, admittedly the exchange rate has shortened the odds.

It's your perogative to disagree, indeed after making such sweeping claims as you have made it would be difficult for you to do any different although I note you have ignored the calculation based on your own figures. Is that called denial?

Originally Posted by Brigger

I would never buy from after market companies such as you mentioned.

Why ever not?

Originally Posted by Brigger

My comments were aimed directly at dealer's (HD) and unless they are telling more porkies everything I have tried to buy in the UK has been a two weeks delivery from a central warehouse in Germany and cash up front. I normally consolidate a shipment with mates and put together shipments worth moving and ship airfreight consolidation which give cheaper airfreight rates.

I think I probably ship more goods from the USA than you and I'm probably more than aware of the shipping rates and rule of thumb percentage to add to a shipment than you.

Originally Posted by Brigger

One cant be specific because I dont know you, didnt know you had a business or know how you operate, so generalising in what is a pretty specific market is the norm.

I have never ever taken a shipment which has not bettered UK dealer prices.

I think I can safely say you have not tried us, or used one of the advantages of being a member - discount from various businesses.

Originally Posted by Brigger

As I said I check the market place usually Alistair at V Twin or local HD dealers.

Not really in depth market research on which to base your findings.

Originally Posted by Brigger

I think you may have lost the thread as this was a discovery for the Fat Tire conversion something I like but not necessarily something I would purchase..

Better to loose the thread than the plot.

[BaZa®]

Lets not please turn this into the old debate that has been typed about so many times.

If you look in your quin and here in our Suppliers section you will see some suppliers that offer club discounts.

It is always worth getting a quote from a fellow member to compare against anyone abroad, as I have suggested many times and in Virtual Rally:
Overseas Retail Mail Order Outlets: Please ask for prices first from your local indy. BaZa ®

[Brigg]

Originally Posted by girlyglide

It's your perogative to disagree, indeed after making such sweeping claims as you have made it would be difficult for you to do any different although I note you have ignored the calculation based on your own figures. Is that called denial?


Why ever not?



I think I probably ship more goods from the USA than you and I'm probably more than aware of the shipping rates and rule of thumb percentage to add to a shipment than you.



I think I can safely say you have not tried us, or used one of the advantages of being a member - discount from various businesses.



Not really in depth market research on which to base your findings.



Better to loose the thread than the plot.

Considering the content of the above I found it more discrete to reply to you by PM.

[HOG maniac]

Still you are one of my valued customers Brigger.

I agree with supporting the local economy if you can.

[Floyd]

Season of goodwill to all Harley peeps I say.

Cheers!

Take a break!

[ochstephen]

Back to the thread,
just looking at the fitment instructions on the kit, i must admit i winced a wee bit when i seen the bit where they cut the cross member, then (pardon the pun) yanked the tubulars apart, or (jacked them apart).
I know nothing of frame building but i'd be interested to hear what the experienced custom guys views on it were.

Phil 260's thread has got some good pic's of a stripped sporty frame at the mo' and looking at them, you can see the welds on the diagonal tubulars that (to me) would be coming under stress (shear).

I've heard HD's are over-engineered but i doubt if the original calculations forseen sombody taking a jack to the frame then bolting on a wad of tube to stop it springing (if your lucky) back into the shape it was designed for.
I wonder if they've checked them after say, a good fully leaden, two-up run.

As i say i know fck all about bike frames but if was a big compressor frame or something vibratey, it would be knotched out and little pup pieces welded in to get the proper profile.


Maybe i'm a fussy fkr but it just dont look right, -----or is it just a new type of springer