Immobilised in France

[furstyferret65]

Go Gental ! where do i get help (other than the shrink),
A recent run across france on my 05 XLc 1200 (still got a numb arse) Route Napoleon - cannons Verdon (you gota go awsome!). When i stopped at a toll & turned off the bike with the key the Immobilisor wouild not de-activate the same happened at filling stations on the motorways, after being towed off the toll (€180) Taxi to a hotel (€70) to find out that the the bike startted in the morning & i could carry on my journey.
This happened 5 more times Dock Gate 20 stated this happens all over France nothing wrong with the bike!! Radio waves
I pushed my sporty 7 miles on holiday in heat that the foreign legion would of commended me, Whats the fix ( i know by a street bob!!)

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[simonDyna]

The fix is to use your personal over-ride code on the indicator switches.

[Brigg]

Originally Posted by furstyferret65

Go Gental ! where do i get help (other than the shrink),
A recent run across france on my 05 XLc 1200 (still got a numb arse) Route Napoleon - cannons Verdon (you gota go awsome!). When i stopped at a toll & turned off the bike with the key the Immobilisor wouild not de-activate the same happened at filling stations on the motorways, after being towed off the toll (€180) Taxi to a hotel (€70) to find out that the the bike startted in the morning & i could carry on my journey.
This happened 5 more times Dock Gate 20 stated this happens all over France nothing wrong with the bike!! Radio waves
I pushed my sporty 7 miles on holiday in heat that the foreign legion would of commended me, Whats the fix ( i know by a street bob!!)

Member009440

Happens at the Orange mast in Calais, happens at Detling Hill in Kent.

Mine immobilised twice, evidently if you take the battery nout of the key fob leave it for a few minutes and re-insert, it will reset itself.

Information from the Foundary... Bloody frustrating though...

[harleyshrew]

Same thing happened to us in France at most filling stations. Can you imagine pushing a fully loaded Street Bob in shorts, t-shirt and flip flops (because of the heat we had to change out of our leathers everytime this happened) to get it as far away from the masts as possible, often with the alarm going.
It must have looked like we were stealing the bike, but people just stood watching (barmy engish I bet they thought). I was told about the code to disconnect the alarm when we got back, but if you look it up in the manual it is so complicated I just gave up.
With that, and the Inner Primary Bearing going our long awaited touring holiday across France was a fiasco

Sorry have already moaned about this on other threads, but this gave me another chance to moan and winge and feel sorry for meself

[Trevor]

The same happened us last year, Only pushed the bikes once though round the back of the petrol station. If you crouch down by the side panels you can normally shield the receiver and fob with your body.. Also if you look around and see the rotating dishes try the fob when they are pointing away from you. Unless you are on your own, use the kill switch in petrol stations, just make sure someone stays with the bikes. I am going to take a piece of the insulating foil you put behind radiators next year, see if that works.
It is not only our bikes, all the European bikes have the same problem.

[Urrell]

Originally Posted by simonDyna

The fix is to use your personal over-ride code on the indicator switches.

Has nobody seen post this or perhaps they don't want a solution!

This is hard-wired into the security system so radio interference will not stop it disabling the immobiliser.

[Kernow]

Originally Posted by Trevor

The same happened us last year, Only pushed the bikes once though round the back of the petrol station. If you crouch down by the side panels you can normally shield the receiver and fob with your body.. Also if you look around and see the rotating dishes try the fob when they are pointing away from you. Unless you are on your own, use the kill switch in petrol stations, just make sure someone stays with the bikes. I am going to take a piece of the insulating foil you put behind radiators next year, see if that works.
It is not only our bikes, all the European bikes have the same problem.

Not quite true, Most of the european systems work within the European Radio system. Unfortunately US systems use different frequencies to Euro, that's why there are problems. Harleys can have trouble in UK as well if they are too near High Power Transmitters or repeater stations. Next to the old Surrey HD, there was a council car park where most of the runs started, unfortunately there was also a repeater station for Emergency Services and many Harleys came to grief when the signals were strong and over rode the signal from the Fob. US systems use different wavelengths from Europe and I have not heard of any problems in the States. Fortunately my Fat Boy was produced before HD started installing their own systems, so I have a Euro standard Alarm/immobilser which has never had a problem either here or on the continent.

[Daggers]

Right, I had some bloke wibble on about this just before I went to France. Nice timing, I didn't think.

Having just completed 2,000+ fault-free miles around Wineland, riding alongside pylons big and small, filling up between 1 to 3 times per day at service stations and travelling via Calais: I can't help but feel this is an urban myth.

You know what? I wasn't the only Harley either. I passed a huge amount of them on the roads, the second site I stayed at was brimming with them...and none of them had broken down due to electricity.

I remain convinced that we are talking about intermitent problems with the wiring of the alarms concerned but would love to be convinced otherwise by someone with direct knowledge of the problems.

It strikes me that it is easier for dealers to blame things they then don't have to bother fixing - they may as well blame ghosts.

[Urrell]

Originally Posted by harleyshrew

I was told about the code to disconnect the alarm when we got back, but if you look it up in the manual it is so complicated I just gave up.

Its not too complicated, But if you can't remember it there are two cards in the back of the manual that can be used to record the code with instructions for disabling the immobiliser and can be popped out and carried in your wallet.

PS: If you lose the fobs or they will not work you will have to have the TSSM (turn signal security module) replaced if you don't know the code!! And that's not going to be cheap.

[Ukkid76]

Originally Posted by Daggers

Right, I had some bloke wibble on about this just before I went to France. Nice timing, I didn't think.

Having just completed 2,000+ fault-free miles around Wineland, riding alongside pylons big and small, filling up between 1 to 3 times per day at service stations and travelling via Calais: I can't help but feel this is an urban myth.

You know what? I wasn't the only Harley either. I passed a huge amount of them on the roads, the second site I stayed at was brimming with them...and none of them had broken down due to electricity.

I remain convinced that we are talking about intermitent problems with the wiring of the alarms concerned but would love to be convinced otherwise by someone with direct knowledge of the problems.

It strikes me that it is easier for dealers to blame things they then don't have to bother fixing - they may as well blame ghosts.

Sorry Daggers but you,re wrong "and lucky" it is a problem with most if not all Harley's at some point in the UK and Europe,

I've been with bikes that have had this problem but not me, and I've had a problem but not others!!

All Harley owners must learn to use the key fob override via the turn signal switches,

The problem is if you don't reset it with your own private code there are some smart criminals out there who can help themselves to your bike!!

Enough said just learn how to do it AND DO IT!!!!!!