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    How hog became hog

    Why! They were of a pigling born. It says.

    from Wikimotocycleopedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Weishaar

    Not certain of the etymological sureness of the path from what they knew as a mascot pig to what we know as a hog.
    I thought the term hog derived from the 1950's, when applied to the result of loading on a big twin and rider every do-dad you could squeeze out of a Beck-Arnley catalogue in the name of promiscuous shinyizm.
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    Re: How hog became hog

    Amazing

    Ray Weishaar Hung on to his Helmet Four Laps With his Teeth
    (Chicago Speedway, September 12, 1915) "In the 13th lap, however, his helmet became unfastened, Weishaar hung on to the strings with his teeth for four laps and then threw the helmet into the pits.
    Time out of mind

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    Re: How hog became hog

    The Harley-Davidson team's mascot was a small pig, which they would take around the track with them on victory laps (c)

    Hah, it's quite funny fact, thanks for cool information

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    Re: How hog became hog

    I can't resist taking this thread in a slightly different direction (well, entirely different if I'm honest!) and tell our newer members some history that they likely do not know. In the early eighties H-D was represented over here by a concessionaires - Coburn & Hughes of Luton. In 1981 they put on a one day event outside the National Motorcycle Exhibition at the NEC in Birmingham. This was very well recieved and so they decided to plan a full rally for '82 and involved a team from us in their planning meets. At one meet I explained to them who Bill "Willie G" Davidson was and how good it would be for them to get him over - which they did. Back then I was editor and he was keen to meet me to find out how we'd got the still secret Evo "Blockhead" motor on the cover of our March '82 'Quin. We spent quite a lot of time chatting, during which I outlined the "EuroFed" Harley clubs to him and introduced him to some other Fed club members or officers there. This was the summer of '82, he was (it seemed to me) very interested and asked quite a few questions at that time. The following year HOG began in the states and in due course expanded to Europe and beyond. We can likely never prove anything and the factory isn't likely to admit anything but many in this club strongly suspect that 1982 rally was the seed that became HOG.

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    Re: How hog became hog

    Hi Paul.

    There was also the Harley Davidson Owners Association.
    There was a badge on Ebay a few years ago; I know because I bought it.

    The H.D.O.A. is also mentioned by Donny Petersen in his Unauthorized Technical Guides of HD engines.
    Where he says this became HOG.

    So maybe the ideas and info Willie G gained from you and the H.D.O.A. they were merged to become HOG ?
    Does HOG have an official historian ?
    I know HD does.

    Perhaps they know the full story.

    Here's a photo of the Harley Davidson Owners Association badge.

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    Re: How hog became hog

    Quote Originally Posted by FXSTC Dave View Post
    ...........................I know HD does.......................
    'William Johnson,' Head Archivist, is the name I wrote on the envelope several years ago when making inquiries about a certain in-house press release concerning a certain motorcycle. Not a pip back, tho I was easy enough about the thing to have include a self addressed stamped envelope.
    Naive of me I guess, geeze...you'd think I'd learn

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    Re: How hog became hog

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul P. View Post
    .......the still secret Evo "Blockhead" motor on the cover of our March '82 'Quin...............

    a.k.a. "The Greatest Harley Raid of All'

    Well Done! you English.

    a coup' of enduring legend among the Euroclubs no doubt.

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    Re: How hog became hog

    Thought I'd better show newer members what we are talking about. The magazine wasn't anywhere as smart back then as it is now, you can see it is a prototype with the two slice rocker box, a middle "slice" was added to be able to remove the heads in frame. The big rumour at the time was four valve heads, many other bikes were going that way at the time. While "blockhead" never really caught on, it was the most used head term so we can for the first time prove the first use of it! (most responses I got were negative, the one I remember most was "call it the GivingHead because it sucks")
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